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Like NEW Hennig 17 med
This absolutely gorgeous custom Hennig is less than 5 months old. Like new condition! 17" seat, med tree. Exposed front blocks. STUNNING SADDLE and has the gold Hennig plate on the back of the cantle.


SOLD CONGRATULATIONS PAULA!! 7/04
Chilmark, MA.


Hennig 17 wide
This saddle is in excellent condition! 17" seat, wide tree (was used on 34 cm horse) exposed front blocks.
SOLD 7/04 CONGRATS LORRI!!!!


Hennig 17 med
Stunning Hennig in excellent condition! 17 seat, med tree. SOLD 7/26/04 CONGRATULATIONS MADELEINE!


Hennig 17 med
Beautiful 17" med tree Hennig. Excellent condition. Front exposed blocks.
SOLD!


Hennig 17.5 med
Older 17.5 med Hennig with exposed front blocks. Saddle is about 10 years old with average use shown.

$2,500

SOLD! 8'04 Congrats Sara!!
Raleigh, N.C.


Hennig 17.5 WIDE
Lovely Hennig from Germany in a 17.5 seat and wide tree. This saddle is 8 years old. Short 15" flaps. Textured leather on seat, rolls and flaps. Billets in excellent condition. Some normal wear on flaps and a ding on the edge of the cantle. No repairs necessary.
Email or call us for price.

SOLD! CONGRATS SUSAN!


Hennig 17
Beautiful classic Hennig in a 17" seat with exposed front and rear blocks. Made for slimmer built individual. Saddle is in great shape!
SOLD!!! CONGRATS MARGO!!


Hennig 18" wide
This is a 2 year old saddle with an 18" seat and wide tree. The saddle has such a cut back pommel it is perfect for a horse with high withers as well as a very wide backed horse. The saddle is all black (excuse the light of the photo...it is truly all black) and has covered blocks with very soft textured rolls. The seat is also textured. Very wide chamber for maximum spinal clearance. The perfect saddle choice for a wide backed large warmblood! Please email or call for price.

SOLD TO JEN! SORRY BUT I'M KEEPING THIS ONE!


18 Hennig med
Gorgeous 18" Hennig with a medium setting and exposed blocks just arrived from Germany. This saddle is a 98 model and in beautiful condition. Flaps look wonderful, flocking is great, billets are fine and in no need of replacing. Beautiful saddle. Email for more info.

This saddle is returning from a fitting trial. See comment by the buyer:
"I will say it is in excellent shape for a 6 yr old saddle. It looks well taken care of. I had my doubts when you posted the age…but it is in great shape."

Email for price. Saddle can be shipped out immediately.

SOLD!! CONGRATS LAURA :) !!!
Imperial, MO.


18" Hennig
18" Hennig med tree, exposed blocks, absolutely excellent condition! Buffalo leather on seat and blocks. Great for an average to taller rider. Email for price.

SOLD!! 10/30 CONGRATULATIONS BARBIE!!

See Barbie's testimonial below!


Hennig 17.5 med
17.5 med Hennig 2000 model with buffalo leather, mono flap design and exposed blocks. The mono flap design means only one flap on each side instead of two. This provides you with closer contact to your horse as well as a lighter weight saddle. This design has become very popular over recent years. This saddle is in very good condition.

SOLD! CONGRATS JANE :) !!
Richmond, VA.

11/22
Jen! The saddle is here and I don't think you'll be getting it back! :) I know I've only ridden it once but... it feels great to me and my pony's back came up almost right away and then he was so much freer in his shoulders. He's an excellent mover anyway but now he's even better who knew? Did I mention how long it makes my short legs feel? My trainer just loved the way it puts my leg and Pascal has a really bouncy trot but it's a breeze to sit in the Hennig
Now we'll see what the saddlefitter has to say tomorrow.

11/23
Jen, Everything went perfectly. The saddlefitter loved it on him, my trainer loves my position and I adore it. Everyone's happy here including my pony!Hennig 17.5 med the pony!


Hennig 17.5 med to med-wide
This is a 99 model Hennig with a 17.5 seat, exposed front AND rear blocks, and a tree setting around a med to med-wide. This saddle is in good condition, some fading or discoloration on some small areas (not noticeable at any distance..just brown spots) billet holes are stretched.
Email for more info.

SOLD! CONGRATS PAT!!!!! 12/2
Tallahasee, FL.

Comment from Pat on first ride:
"First of all, I savored every minute of 45 degrees and howling wind thinking of 8 degrees up there!!! The saddle is incredible. It puts me in a posture I have never experienced before."

March progress note! :)
Jen,
Just thinking of you and hope all is well. I LOVELOVELOVE my saddle. No excuses now!!! I can no longer blame "the equipment".

Pat


Hennig Testimonial
Jen--

I got the 18" Hennig you sold me the other day, but didn't have time to ride in it until today. I've ridden in these before, so I was pretty sure it would be good for me. Surprisingly, the tree was an okay fit for my horse, so I thought it might be good for him. He has a flat back, and can really bring it up, so I was really hoping this would work.

Now, everyone thinks they have a super young horse, but I really have an international quality six year old. Lars Petersen found him for me, and I train with Lars. He has fantastic movement, but was being restricted by my Schleese saddle. Well, I walked him for ten minutes, and then picked up the trot. WOW! From the FIRST STRIDE, his trot was bigger and better. And the right lead canter, which is his weaker side, was significantly better. Not only that, but I got clean flying changes from him, for the first time in a long time.

Thank you for finding me a great saddle! I love it that I saved over $1000, and didn't have to wait for months and months!

I'm skeptical of products with claims of improving the horse immediately, and although I am well aware of the value of a well fitting saddle, I was not expecting so much from the Hennig. I can't wait to ride today!

Another satisfied customer!

--Barbie Ulbrich
1997 USET Grand Prix trainer/rider
"What's What"


Hennig 17.5 MW
This 2 year old Hennig should be arriving later this month. 17.5 seat, MW tree setting, exposed blocks, excellent condition.
Email for info on this beautiful saddle!

SOLD BEFORE IT EVEN ARRIVED!
Wellington, FL.


Hennig All-Purpose Eventer !! 17.5
17.5 Hennig All-Purpose Saddle. This saddle has adjustable blocks. You can position them forward or back. Great saddle for someone who wants the quality and the excellent tree and seat of the Hennig...but would also like to do some small jumps along with their dressage. The perfect hacking saddle.

Email for price.

SOLD ON 1/12/05
CONGRATS DIANNE!!!! FINALLY!! :)
Washington, MO.


Hennig Testimonial
Hi Jen,
Just thought I would let you know how much I love the Hennig. I cannot believe the difference these saddles make for both me and especially my horse--he seems so very comfortable in it! Thrilled with it. Thanks. Diane

D.Ursch
Washington, MO.


Hennig 17.5 MW
2002 Model Hennig with 17.5 MW tree in excellent condition. Saddle is black with buffalo leather on seat and exposed blocks. Saddle will be shipped from Germany the week of Feb 1st.

SALE PENDING


Hennig 18.5 MW
Hennig 18.5" medium-wide. Covered blocks. All black. Saddle is a 2000 MODEL and had one owner who used it on two horses. Saddle is in great condition! Would suit someone who normally rides on an 18-19" saddle. Buffalo leather on seat and rolls.
Email or call for more info.


SOLD! 2/15
CONGRATS ROBERT !!
Fletcher, NC.


Hennig 18 M
This saddle is absolutely stunning. Deep, rich mahogany tone. Saddle was used for only 3 years. Owner had soundness issues with her horse and was unable to ride for the other years she owned the saddle. Seat is 18".
Tree medium. Exposed blocks, buffalo leather on seat and blocks. Gold Hennig plate on back of cantle.


SOLD!!! 2/14
CONGRATULATIONS URSULA!!
Victor, MT.


Hennig 17 MW
Beautiful black Hennig with exposed blocks. 17 seat, approximate MW setting. Buffalo leather on seat and blocks. Billets like new. Very little wear on flaps. Saddle is in excellent condition.
Shipping via expedited shipping from Germany the week of 2/14. Email for info.

SOLD! 2/14
CONGRATULATIONS PEGGY!!
Missoula, MT.


Hennig 18 MW-W
Beautiful brown Hennig with 18" seat and med to wider tree setting. Saddle has 15.5" flaps from stirrup bar to flap bottom. Recently reflocked and point billets added.

SOLD!
CONGRATS PAT!
Eads, TN.


Hennig Testimonial
Hello Jen,

I'm very sorry, but you won't be able to get this saddle back. Not only do I think it was almost custom-made for me, but my trainer is really ticked off that she sat in a saddle this expensive, and liked it--a lot.
I rode a friend's horse in it. This is a horse that tries hard to make the rider's seat ineffective, and it just didn't work. My trainer said, "It looks like you're just sitting there." This was exactly correct--I was getting the horse to go well, but it was not an effort for me!

Regards, Pat Kessler
Eads, TN.


NEW Hennig 18.5
Brand NEW Hennig with the following features:
EXPOSED BLOCKS
MONO FLAP
EXTRA DEEP 18.5-19" SEAT
EXTRA SOFT LEATHER
Saddle was made for someone approximately 5'7". Seat would be appropriate for someone who normally rides on an 18". Saddle is in Germany and we can pay for expedited shipping to get it here within a two week period. Email for details.

This is a NEW Hennig that will be sold at a used Hennig price!


SOLD!
CONGRATS NANCY!!
Somerset, CA.


2002 17.5 Hennig MW
Hennig 17.5 MW 2002
2002 black Hennig 17.5 MW in excellent condition. Buffalo leather on seat and exposed blocks. Expected arrival from Germany sometime around March 1st.

SOLD! 3/14
CONGRATS STEPHANY!
Elizabeth, PA.


Hennig 17.5 MW NEW CONDITION
This 17.5 MW model with exposed blocks was used for only 6 months. Saddle has extra soft leather on seat. It is in EXCELLENT condition.
SOLD ON TRIAL!
will ship to buyer on 3/10

SOLD! 3/18
CONGRATS JANNA!
Rocky Ridge, MD.


2002 Hennig 17 MW
Stunning 2002 Hennig MW. This saddle has an extra deep seat, extra soft leather, exposed blocks. Saddle is in EXCELLENT condition.

SOLD ON TRIAL 3/11


FINAL SALE 3/18
CONGRATS LEE!!!
Concord, MA.


Hennig 17.5 MW
03 Hennig with a true 17.5" seat and a M to MW setting. Saddle has deep seat, buffalo leather on rolls, covered blocks, extra soft seat, narrow twist. Flaps are 17" long from stirrup bars. Excellent condition. Saddle has some boot rubs on flap bottoms.

SOLD 3/29
CONGRATS MOLLY!!!
Ruther Glen, VA.


Hennig Testimonial
Taken with Molly's permission from a dressage forum:
"I'm one of the friends who just bought the Hennig (used, of course!). I tried Jane's on my mare, Maggie, and even though saddle was slightly too narrow for my mare, she went forward in that saddle like she has NEVER moved before. So, I get one on trial from Jen at Mahtowa Meadows (phenomenal woman to work with, by the way).
This saddle fit my mare like a glove - needs minimal reflocking - and its like sitting in "buttah". The difference in my position and Maggie's comfort is UNBELIEVABLE. This is a mare that is built slightly downhill and moves as much up & down as she does forward. Until this saddle, I have not been able to successfully sit her trot, especially in extensions. Her walk - always very nice, "went from an 8 to a 12!" (experienced eyewitness account). Her canter - always big with lots of jump - is SOOOO much easier to ride & control now.



Saddles also tend to move forward on her b/c of her build (big barrel but really narrows in girth area). Because of the cut - allowing shoulder to be free - this did not impinge upon her shoulders - allowing her to really stretch out in her gaits. The openess was nothing I have seen in her before - and I watched a couple of other people ride her in saddle prior to making purchase decision.
No more back discomfort - for either of us. Rode her in a clinic for 90 minutes (we were both 2 weeks out of work) - she wasn't the least bit sore at end of ride. I only had issues from my pneumonia, not from the saddle.
Also, the saddle puts me where I need to be. I feel almost like I'm riding bareback and my hips are able to move much more freely in how I sit in this saddle. I also tend not to grip and brace in my legs (and let me tell you, I am the ruling diety of gripping and bracing). And an incredible feeling of security - this mare is queen of dropping shoulder in spook and bolting - my seat didn't move when she did this - and this is with a dog running up under her hind legs!
Just to give you an idea of how many saddles I tried - brands include Prestige, Albion, Amerigo, Diamont, Stubben, the Anky/Pessoa ?, Rembrandt, County (various models), Bates, Niedersuss, Keiffer, and many, many more. I was the bane of the local tack shop - took out every saddle they had new and on consignment. Tried every saddle in our trainer's barn and among friends.



Let's just say - I'm totally sold on the Hennig for my horse & me. Those are most of the reasons why (well, haven't got all day, y'know).

Molly & the Magpie
Ruther Glen, VA.


2002 Hennig 17.5 W
2002 Hennig with 17.5 deep seat and fairly wide (MW_W) tree setting. This saddle has the covered blocks, soft buffalo leather on seat and rolls. The flaps are long...18.5" from stirrup bar. The flap width is 14". Saddle is in EXCELLENT condition.



SOLD!! 4/10
CONGRATS CHRIS!!
St. Louis, MO.


17.5 MW Hennig
GORGEOUS (!) Hennig 17.5 MW black with exposed rolls. Saddle was used for 2 years. Absolutely excellent condition!


SOLD 4/12! CONGRATS BETHANY!!
Richmond, VA.



Hennig 17.5 M
Gorgeous! Hennig with 17.5 seat, medium 32 cm tree setting, exposed blocks, extra soft leather, deep seat, mono flap. Saddle needs 2 stitches to where the block UNDER the flap attaches just at the very bottom. Saddle can be easily used without repair...just mentioning this so buyer is aware.
Saddle is here and ready to ship!

SOLD FINAL SALE 4/13
CONGRATS ON YOUR SECOND HENNIG, JANNA!
CONGRATS TO MARAT!
Rocky Ridge, MD.


Hennig 17.5 MW
17.5 Hennig with exposed blocks, M-MW setting, in excellent condition!

SOLD 4/27
CONGRATS SARA!!


Hennig 18 MW
18 Hennig with exposed blocks and MW setting. 96 model in very good condition! Buffalo leather on entire saddle.

SOLD!! 5/1
CONGRATS KELLY!!!


Hennig 18 M-MW
18" Hennig with a medium to med-wide setting. Covered block style. Saddle has extra long flaps. Buffalo leather on entire saddle, seat,rolls,flaps. This type of buffalo leather is extremely durable. This saddle will hold up to alot of rigorous riding. Superficial spur scratch about 3" long on the seat (can show in photo). Flaps are 18" long from stirrup bar to bottom.

SOLD 5/9
CONGRATS JORDAN!!!
Greenland, NH.


Hennig Testimonial
5/9/05
Hi Jen,

I can't believe I'm saying this after all I've been through (seemingly endless trials of poor quality, poor fit and downright lousy customer service from several very well known saddle companies) looking for a saddle for the "Princess and the Pea" and his horses, but..... it fits!! We'll keep it. I can't tell you how happy I am, you have been so helpful, thank you very much. I still am in shock that the first saddle you sent us works. If I need to send you any more info to complete the purchase please let me know. Jordan and I are both very grateful. We have already told several people about your company, and will continue to steer anyone we know looking for a saddle your way.

Thanks again,

Sharon / Jordan
Greenland, NH.


Hennig 17MW
Beautiful 2001 Hennig with exposed front and rear blocks, extra soft leather. Gold piping around seat. Saddle is in excellent condition!

SOLD 5/16
CONGRATULATIONS KRIS!!!
St. Charles, Illinois


Hennig 17 #010
This 03 flap over block model Hennig was used for only 8 months and is in FABULOUS condition. Extremely soft leather and comfortable seat. Saddle is here and ready to ship!

SOLD! 6/6
CONGRATULATIONS KIE!!!
Berkeley, CA.


Hennig 17 W #001
Covered block style with very deep seat. 17" MW-Wide tree setting. This saddle has light leather traces on the flaps from normal use, slight fading in spots on flaps, and had new flocking and billets one year ago. Saddle is in great condition over all.

SOLD! 6/20
CONGRATULATIONS APRIL!!
West Fargo, ND.


Hennig 2000 18"
2000 model Hennig with 18 seat and flap over front blocks and exposed-through-flap rear tiny blocks. Saddle is in great condition. One of the Hennig buttons came off of the pommel, but we have it here and it certainly could be reattached if someone wants to do that. Flocking is still soft.

SOLD 7/28
CONGRATULATIONS KENDRA!!
Ashford, CT.


ANOTHER HENNIG TESTIMONIAL!
7/27/05
Hi Jen,
The saddle arrived safely yesterday (nice packing
job!) and it's just gorgeous! The picture didn't do it justice. I haven't ridden in it yet, but I have sat on it and it seems to fit me; the seat feels as comfortable as any 17.5" saddle. I hope to try it today and will update you after a couple of rides.

7/28/05
I rode in it. I rode better than I have in months! I'm keeping it!!! I love it!!! I don't know why people waste time riding on cheap saddles, fighting to keep their positions. Just think of the money they could save on
lessons by buying a Hennig. I was shaking my head
thinking about that today when I was sitting on my
beautiful new saddle. I'll never go back. I didn't want to get off the horse.
Thanks Jen!
Also, thanks for being so helpful (quick replies to emails and the wealth of info is much appreciated).
I'm going to try to get a new button from Hennig.
This saddle is SO worth every penny!
Thanks again.

Kendra
Ashford, CT.


Hennig 17 2004
2004 Hennig with exposed blocks. 17MW-W
Excellent Condition!



SOLD!! 8/10
CONGRATULATIONS CHRISTINE!!
Rome, GA.


Hennig 18
Exposed block 18+ Hennig. Tree is approximate MW setting. Saddle is about 6 years old.
7/29 THIS SADDLE FINALLY ARRIVED!!!!!! Evidently increased security slowed things down through the postal service out of Germany. It's beautiful!! Flaps look close to new, billets look new, flocking is soft, minor wear on the seat and that's it!!! Seat is approximately 18-18.5. Flaps are 17".
Really a beauty!
THIS SADDLE LOOKS LIKE IT IS LESS THAN ONE YEAR OLD!


SOLD! 8/12
CONGRATULATIONS BETH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Weston, MA.


Hennig Testimonial
Hi Jen,

Well, I've ridden in this saddle a few times.... and it really has changed my life and my riding... its amazing !!!
Jane says I never had my leg in such a correct position... so everything is so much better - it's awesome !!!
It was definitely worth all the trials !!!

THANK YOU !!!!
Especially for your patience !

Beth F.
Weston, MA.


Hennig 17.5 M
17.5 Hennig with exposed blocks and medium setting.
This is an older Hennig in great condition! Narrow twist and standard flaps.

SOLD! 8/22
CONGRATULATIONS MARISA!
Willington, CT.



8/23/05
Hi Jen,
My trainer actually saw me ride in the saddle this weekend and said to definitely keep it. My upper body and lower leg are improved greatly. It's so easy to sit in the right position…..it's wonderful!!! I also noticed my mare isn’t giving me any problems about the canter transition (she usually kicked out or gave a little buck). I bet my other saddle was pinching or something. I can’t wait to try the saddle after the reflocking, it will be heaven!!
I guess I was one of the “lucky ones” that found a saddle on the first try. Thank you for all your help and patience when it comes to questions about the saddles. They are wonderful saddles and I’m sure someday in the future I’ll be coming back to you to buy a brand new Hennig (when I’m not a poor grad student!!). You run a wonderful business, keep up the great work!!
Thanks,
Marisa
Willington, CT


Hennig 18 M-MW
This exposed block 18 Hennig is approximately 4 years old however was only used for 2 years. Saddle is at about a medium to med-wide setting and in very good condition. Saddle has a spur scratch on the pommel area. Flocking is quite loose. Saddle is here and ready to ship! (This saddle was owned by a member of the German olympic team and is engraved as such on the flap)


SOLD 8/24
CONGRATULATIONS KAREN!!!
Clarksville, MD.


Hennig 17.5 #011
GORGEOUS 3 year old flap over model Hennig with a 17.5 seat and approximate MW tree setting. Long flaps.
Entire saddle is buffalo leather. Saddle is here and ready to ship!

SOLD 8/26
CONGRATULATIONS RONNI!!
Bridgewater, NJ.



Hennig 18.5 MW #033
This exposed block model Hennig has an 18.5 seat and approximate MW tree setting. Flaps are 15" from stirrup bar. Leather and flocking are very soft. Some billet holes stretched a bit. The saddle is in beautiful condition.
Saddle is here and ready to ship!

SOLD 9/11
CONGRATULATIONS KELLY!!!
Centreville, VA.



Hennig 18 M-MW #028

GORGEOUS covered block model with 18" seat and M-MW tree setting. This saddle is in absolutely EXCELLENT condition. Flocking is soft, billets look brand new. Buffalo leather on seat and rolls. Nice wide channel in the rear for great spinal clearance.


SOLD 9/14
CONGRATULATIONS KAREN!!! :)
Geneva, IL.


Hennig 18 M #021
Gorgeous Hennig with 18 seat and approximate Med tree setting. This saddle has front and rear exposed blocks and also has buffalo leather on the entire saddle. Really beautiful leather on this one.

SOLD 9/17
CONGRATULATIONS LESLIE F. !!!
East Meadow, NY.


Hennig 17 wide #032
Hennig 04 model gel seat, covered block, extra soft leather on seat! 17 wide setting.

SOLD 10/17
CONGRATULATIONS LESLIE!!!
Villa Rica, GA.


Hennig 17-17.5 MW #043
Beautiful 2003 model covered block measures between 17-17.5. Has an approximate MW tree setting. Nice gullet width for good spinal clearance. Buffalo leather on rolls. Extra soft leather on seat.

SOLD 10/17
CONGRATULATIONS SHARI!!! (see Shari's feedback from her saddle fitter on the Hennig Testimonial page. Was added 10/17..so last entry on page)
Ashland, MA.


Hennig 17 Med #050
2001 17" exposed blocks (front and rear!)with sought after MONO-FLAP design!! This saddle is black with some fading of the blocks. (photo resolution is causing the blocks to look much lighter than they really are...they are not brown) Saddle was reflocked by Hennig in August 05. Saddle is here and ready to ship.

SOLD 10/18
CONGRATULATIONS JANNA!!!
Rocky Ridge, MD.


Hennig 17 M #005
17 Medium Hennig in excellent condition. Billets replaced within the last year. This saddle would be considered well for the narrower built horse. The flaps are 15". Would suit fairly slim petite rider. Great for someone wanting a nice straight leg as the blocks are recessed back a bit. Nice soft leather on the seat!
Saddle is here and ready to ship.

SOLD 10/21
CONGRATULATIONS VERA LYNN!!!
Rocky Ridge, MD.


Hennig 17.5 M-MW #047
Beautiful 17.5 brown 2000 exposed block Hennig with soft deep seat and approximately a med to med-wide setting. This saddle is a beautiful dark chestnut brown (darker than photo makes it appear). Would be stunning on a bay or dark chestnut. Flocking is very soft! Saddle is here and ready to ship!

SOLD 10/23
CONGRATULATIONS CHRISTINE!!!
Rocky Ridge, MD.


Hennig 2002 16.5 #040
Gorgeous 2002 RARE 16.5" (!) extra soft seat, exposed block model with a M-MW tree setting. Saddle is in close to new condition. Absolutely stunning. Deep seat. Exquisite leather. Here and ready to ship!

SOLD 10/27
CONGRATULATIONS ANTHIA!!!
New Canaan, CT.



Hennig 17 MW-W #052

2002 model full exposed block Hennig with approximately a MW-wide setting. This saddle is in excellent condition. Seat is true 17" and flaps are 16". 4 finger gullet width all the way to rear.
Photo to be added on Monday. Saddle is here and ready to ship.


SOLD 11/03
CONGRATULATIONS COLLEEN!!!
Rocky Ridge, MD


Hennig 17 M- MW #044
This 2003 model 17 Hennig M-MW with 3/4 exposed blocks is in absolutely EXCELLENT condition! Saddle is here and ready to ship. Nice soft supple leather on this one. This saddle would do well on a TB type build. (will add new photo when rain stops here. That photo does not do it justice at all!)

SOLD 11/04
CONGRATS BONNIE!!!
Englishtown, NJ.


Hennig 18 MW #035
This 2001 3/4 exposed block Hennig has an 18" seat and approximately a MW tree setting. Double soft leather on the flaps and seat. Normal wear can be seen on flaps and a scuff on cantle edge. Billets look close to new. Flocking is soft. This saddle has the regular Hennig flex tree. Flaps are 16" in length.
Saddle is here and ready to ship!

SOLD 11/7
CONGRATS LAURA!!!
Tappahannock, VA




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